Incontinence protection and changing

2008-01-31 23:19:10

I have been reading the many comments about the length of time
various people go between changing their incontinence diapers. To me,
those that buy the super absorbent products in order to go 12 or more
hours without a change are foolish. I have been incontinent for many
years, and from the unfortunate beginning of my incotinence, have
been taught and agree that frequent changing is necessary for good
personal hygiene and skin health. Wearing a wet diaper for long
periods of time leads to skin breakdown, odors, and general bacteria
development.
I change atleast every four hours during the day, and more often if I
have an unusually heavy flow. I generally use Attends; however, have
found that the Abena Plus diaper is a good alternative and can often
be bought for the same price as Attends. On those occasions when I
know changing could be a problem, I add a booster pad which will
handle the extra flow. I simply don't like being in a wet diaper, and
can't understand why anyone would.
For overnight, I do use a more absorbent product; usually the Tena
Super. My sleep pattern is normally 6 - 7 hours, so the skin exposure
is greater, but surely not for 12 or more hours of wetness.
I'd appreciate comments from others that are truly incontinent.
Best to all,
Walter

Re: [Information-perthes] Justin Update

2008-01-31 10:47:46

Hi Kristy,

Dr. Gordon is in the same practice as our doctor, Perry Schoenecker. Will you be seeing him at Childrens or Shriners? We have been going to their clinic since December and have really had a great experience. We trust their treatment plan completely, and the staff has been so very nice to Adam.

Are you in the metro STL area or outstate?

Please let us know what they say. We'll be thinking about you.

Lisa/Adam 8

Kristy <kristysigman769@...

We took Justin (11) to the pediatrician yesterday instead of our family
dr that me and my husband use and they got him in today with a
specialist.
We will be seeing Dr Eric Gordon in St Louis.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Kristy

Looking for others

2008-01-31 10:04:33

Hey guys,
I am kind of new here. I have been a member for awhile but haven't
post in a very long time. I am 23 and have ulcerative colits, and over
active bladder. I am looking for some suport, It can be lonley
sometimes. If your intrested in chating feel free to IM me at
Kewlman6798. Or my aim is singer4u242. I am just looking for others to
chat with that know what it's like. I going to try and post here more
often.
thanks
-Dave

Re: 4-week check-up

2008-01-30 18:44:15

Hi Dyan,
Thanks for updating us. I'm sorry to hear that there hasn't been
more progress. The full head involvement is not great news - I'm
sure that Brian or Jenny or one of the others will help with
treatment, etc at this point. Nate had full head involvement and we
elected for surgery for a variety of reasons.
Thanks again for the update - take care, Meridith

Wreaths Across America, 12/15/2007

2008-01-30 14:37:37

Hello All,

Please remember all past, current and future veterans on this memorable day of recognition not Memorial Day and honor of service benefiting our nations pride and self worth as a country. I am not much of a talker but finally had the honor to meet such a man earlier this year at a monument dedication in my cities. The dedication and honor that he displayed for these heroes of our freedom will always remain in my mind from that day. He did and still does in so many ways exhibit what our freedom has cost our veteran's and the honor that makes America the great country we live in. I hope that one day I will be able to stand next to that man in full military dress uniform for a picture to show my children someday, so that also will know what a hero and veteran looks like. Please look at this site and if you can, assist in this very honorable task at hand. I ask as a friend, and as a 14 year service member that we do our best to bring this country back to the respected place it
held in the world for the strength and honor it showed so proudly for so long. That bright shine has become a faded glory that brings pain in the hearts of so many of us that have sworn to honor and protect it, help us at least one small mission at a time to once again help this nation shine and be deserving of the great bird that still does it's best to hold our honor in it's talons as our national symbol. I honestly have no idea why I feel so deeply about this except, for the fact that I was at that dedication and saw some of the greatest heroes this nation has ever had and has become forgotten to a point. Please support your Veteran's Homes and when able just donate a little time and talk to one or a few, it will help you understand at least a little why our soldiers will lay their lives in front of an aggressor so that our nation remains free. Do you know any veteran's? If you do and can find the time, just tell them thank you for what you do for us. They will appreciate
it more than any of us may ever know, and if we do we may chat for just a little while with you to tell you thanks for thanking us. Without all of you that do support and honor all of us, no matter what branch, when we served or what we saw in your un-failing love of God and country. I personally will always serve, I have to! I swore to uphold, honor and protect the Constitution of the United states of America some 20 years ago now against all enemies foreign or domestic. I thankfully can never forget that promise or the honor I felt in doing so. I see daily the total disregard of responsibilities throughout my day and night and get angered by my guilt in doing the same occasionally, but I have never slacked in defending those around me. I hear jokes and comments made in snide remarks from those that have never even been half able to swear what I have and continue to along with so many of my piers. I will protect these smack talkers always because they are part of our
country and citizens here under our flag. I am sorry this became so long, I just didn't know when to stop what I felt from typing.

Take care and God bless,

Jack Kramer

Spc4/E-4 US Army 15 years honorable,separated

PS- Honor a Veteran, for a veteran has always honored you!

" Accept me for who I am, it is me true and honest!"

babyvamp@...

Re: Oscar's response to Bisphosphonate treatment and conservative management

2008-01-30 08:39:29

Susan, there is plenty of interest. Please keep sharing the
information. This board is moving so fast that most days I can read
the great information but don't have time to reply. That doesn't
mean that what you post isn't of interest to many.
Please continue to share your experiences - I play to talk to Nate's
ortho about the bisphosphonate when I see him next.
Meridith

Re: Justin Update

2008-01-30 04:24:04

That's great! Please keep us posted.
Meridith

Re: AB/DL

2008-01-29 18:05:16

yeah i'm thinking the same as you .
they have plenty of other group to talk about diaper .
patrick .

4-week check-up

2008-01-29 17:02:10

Hello all,
Well after spending 2 and 1/2 weeks in the hospital with traction and
therapy we went back for a check-up to see if Paul kept the ROM that
they got in the hospital and things didn't go great. First he lost all
after doing therapy 2 times a week and me taking him swimming everyday
since the local pool opened and doing his exercises with him. Then the
doctor said that he has full head involvement. Which if I not mistaken
is not a good thing right? He give us one more month and then a
decision on treatment will have to be made. If when we go back in July
he is not any better it will either be surgery and cast or inpatient
with traction and therapy again and come home in cast. He didn't say
what kind of surgery. I told the doctor we was at his mercy we would
do what ever he thought was best because he is not one that does seem
to do anyhting unless it is needed. So, we have sll kinds of tickets
to local attractions and will have to try to get in all in before we go
back in July.
Well thanks to everyone for reading and responding to every little
concern or question that us new ones have.
Thanks again,
Dyan/Paul(6)

Justin Update

2008-01-29 15:15:04

We took Justin (11) to the pediatrician yesterday instead of our family
dr that me and my husband use and they got him in today with a
specialist.
We will be seeing Dr Eric Gordon in St Louis.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Kristy

AB/DL

2008-01-29 06:54:10

My vote is no ab/dl stuff on this site. They have plenty of sites that
are devoted to that, I don't have anything against them but would
prefer not to delve into that here.

Re: [Information-perthes] Oscar's response to Bisphosphonate treatment and conservative management

2008-01-29 01:54:07

Hi Pablo,
Thanks for replying.
As I don't think there's much interest in my son's treatment, do you want my introductory email off-list? I don't want to bombard the group with information.
I think I've researched just about every paper available on Perthes on the web, including bisphosphonate treatments for any condition I can find. I've done a lot of homework over the past year and a half, and the treatment my son's been on is only just beginning to show its potential for a good outcome. Still it can be a lonely journey for a parent as there are only one in less than 5000 diagnosed with Perthes in Australia.
Brian's comments are always of interest to me for it seems he has a commonsense approach based on his own history and orthotist (sp?) career. He also echoes and explains in layman's terms many of the things I am learning from Oscar's own doctor, who unfortunately for me delivers a more complicated presentation of the same facts.
How is your young son Daniel going? What stage now? Has his ROM been improved by the very regular swimming??
It's been fabulous for Oscar. Mind you, he's a real surfer boy so in summer we have to keep him away from his brother's board when his Dad takes him out in the surf (only on gentle days, by the way). I have seen Oscar all of a sudden up and standing on the board and riding a wave ON ONE LEG!! Kelly Slater eat your heart out.
Even STILL, Oscar never weight bears, even trying to surf, but my god it's risky business. It's been forbidden now, of course. Doc says that if he were to accidentally put his affected leg down he will exert three times the weight it would normally take. Supervised boogie boarding is still okay.
Do you live near the beach? Perhaps the Atlantic surf is too wild? But the Meditterranean would be fine, no?
Susan/Oscar 8
On 12/6/07 6:13 AM, "Pablo Melchor" <pmelchor@...

Hi Susan,

No idea... maybe too many messages... but I am interested in that e-mail if you can forward it to me :-)

Thanks!

Pablo

On 6/11/07, Milkwood <milkwood33@...

Hi Pablo,
I emailed Barbara a month ago, with an extensive email outlining my son's history and the new bisphosphonate treatment that he has been receiving here in Sydney. I would have thought she and parents in general would have been interested, especially seeing our specialist is internationally reknown for his research in this area as applied to Perthes and other necrotic bone diseases/conditions. I know I would have. I never heard back. How odd?
Susan and Oscar in Oz
On 11/6/07 5:50 AM, "Pablo Melchor" <pmelchor@...

Hi Karla,

Brian can give you information on the different approaches of the groups.

If you want to give the support group a try, you have to e-mail the founder Barbara Kelly (the group is private to avoid "online predators"): her e-mail is reidweaver@... <mailto:reidweaver@...

Regarding the UK bycicles people were discussing: you can see them on the UK Perthes Association website:
http://www.perthes.org.uk/photos
You may even want to contact to them to find out where they get them from?

Pablo, Spain
Son: Daniel (5)

On 6/10/07, Karla Block < libkarla@... <mailto:libkarla@...

Since I am new here, can someone fill me in...I know there's some other groups/boards. Can someone give me the info to get to the support group mentioned below. How is it different from this group?
Thanks!
Karla/William (almost 6)
Brian <bbaker904@...

By the way, there is a hand cranked childrens bike on ebay. 25
dollars is the only bid. By the way also, the post to the link for
easy access clothing is one I posted on the support group. I had a
link here for it which I will delete since another was added. Brian

Thank you everyone for making this group so great

2008-01-28 16:32:18

I never thought this group would become so great. All of you have
added so much and I thank you. I just hope I never steer any of you
wrong. I pray for all of you and wish your kids into recovery. Brian

Re: [Information-perthes] New piccie uploaded

2008-01-28 14:43:08

Donna, Thank you so much for adding the "pain chart". It will be useful for the many families with young children who cannot easily rate their pain with words. You are doing amazing things with all your research and making information more available. Thanks again.

Jenny/Jared 7
Donna <kiwigypsynz@...

I just put a picture in the 'photos' section, in an album called 'pain
chart' which is a smiley face chart, for children to use to indicate
how they are feeling painwise. Particularly younger children don't
have the words to describe how they are feeling, but may be able to
give you a more accurate indication of what the pain is like by
pointing to the face that shows how they are feeling.
Hope that helps
Donna - NZ

Re: [Information-perthes] Christian update

2008-01-28 11:29:48

Sounds like a very good visit. What great news for all of you. Please keep us posted on how things are going. Let us know about your experiences with Shriners. Take care.

Jenny/Jared 7
claudia wohlfeil <candwwohlfeil@...

We got into Shriner's last Tuesday and had a very, very good visit. Even though Christian is at the top of the age range typically affected by Perthes, the doctors had good news for us.

It was a big change from seeing the orthopedist here who walked into the room and said "this is rare, it's serious and I'm not your guy". The pediatric orthopedist who we saw on Tuesday walked into the room and said "this is common, we see it all the time". Whew!

They took new x-rays, both straight legged and frog-leg pose. You can see the Perthes in the right hip especially in the straight legged pose. But in the frog-leg pose the ball goes back into the socket nice and tightly. This is great! One of the x-ray techs was smitten with Christian because he was "using big words" like when asked if his hip hurt he said "occasionally". I didn't think occasionally was that big a word for a 13-year-old, but she was charmed.

The Doc took Christian off the crutches he's been on for 6 weeks and said that he could use pain as his guide as far as when to use them. He cleared him for Boy Scout camp, including day hiking but not the 50-miler....which he wasn't ready for anyway. He only restricted running and jumping.

They are going to see him again in 3 months, take new x-rays and if things haven't gotten worse, they'll see him every six months for the next 2-3 years. He won't have to have surgery at this point....the only thing that might crop up is bone length in the leg with Perthes. But, the doctor said that he has "really young bones" for a 13-year-old which is good. There's lots of room in the growth plate and he thinks Christian will outgrow the problem. At this time, he won't have to be in a cast or a brace. He just needs to take it easy.

So, all things considered it was the best possible news. It appears that Christian has a "mild" case.
Claudia

Re: Christian update

2008-01-28 04:47:50

That's great news I think. Sounds like very little head involvment.
You didn't write how much of the head is involved. Keep us updated.
ASound like he is a kid like I was. Way behind on bone age and size
for my age. Brian

[Information-perthes] Christian update

2008-01-27 12:58:18

We got into Shriner's last Tuesday and had a very, very good visit. Even though Christian is at the top of the age range typically affected by Perthes, the doctors had good news for us.

It was a big change from seeing the orthopedist here who walked into the room and said "this is rare, it's serious and I'm not your guy". The pediatric orthopedist who we saw on Tuesday walked into the room and said "this is common, we see it all the time". Whew!

They took new x-rays, both straight legged and frog-leg pose. You can see the Perthes in the right hip especially in the straight legged pose. But in the frog-leg pose the ball goes back into the socket nice and tightly. This is great! One of the x-ray techs was smitten with Christian because he was "using big words" like when asked if his hip hurt he said "occasionally". I didn't think occasionally was that big a word for a 13-year-old, but she was charmed.

The Doc took Christian off the crutches he's been on for 6 weeks and said that he could use pain as his guide as far as when to use them. He cleared him for Boy Scout camp, including day hiking but not the 50-miler....which he wasn't ready for anyway. He only restricted running and jumping.

They are going to see him again in 3 months, take new x-rays and if things haven't gotten worse, they'll see him every six months for the next 2-3 years. He won't have to have surgery at this point....the only thing that might crop up is bone length in the leg with Perthes. But, the doctor said that he has "really young bones" for a 13-year-old which is good. There's lots of room in the growth plate and he thinks Christian will outgrow the problem. At this time, he won't have to be in a cast or a brace. He just needs to take it easy.

So, all things considered it was the best possible news. It appears that Christian has a "mild" case.

Claudia

Dr. Kim

2008-01-27 05:45:31

I see that someone posted Dr.Kim at Shriners in Tampa in the
database. If anyone has been to him what do you think? We recieved a
second opinion from him in May, and he put Jacob right back into a
wheelchair (after being put on low restrictions by previous Dr.,
tenotomy/petrie casts). He is scheduled for another tenotomy and
petrie casts July 6.
If anyone has any experiences with the Dr. please share with me!!
Also, if anyone lives in the Tampa Bay area let me know! We are in
Venice.
Thank you!!
Kate/ Jacob M.

New piccie uploaded

2008-01-27 02:24:26

I just put a picture in the 'photos' section, in an album called 'pain
chart' which is a smiley face chart, for children to use to indicate
how they are feeling painwise. Particularly younger children don't
have the words to describe how they are feeling, but may be able to
give you a more accurate indication of what the pain is like by
pointing to the face that shows how they are feeling.
Hope that helps
Donna - NZ

Re: bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

2008-01-27 01:21:57

grown fully active Adult. With only one draw back I have a bad
bladder. I don't enjoy having to wear diapers but it's part of my
life. I've never thought diapers to be kinky. And I don't much care
for the Idea of being considered a baby at heart. I have very little
respect for anyone with the AB/DL mentality. If you reading this are
one. I would hope that you would keep it to yourself and not share
your perversion. Or use this board to feed your perversion. Anyone
else feel the same way? Sandy
and enjoy wearing nappies the thrill of being different is a bit
kinky and I love it if you would like to meet for a coffee and a yarn
contact me ? Joseph
wearing my nappies at first just a 1yer ago now its
just like wearing JIM JAMS FOR BED IM OK WITH IT NOW stphn

Re: [Information-perthes] Any advice on choosing a doctor? My son's symptoms are worse...

2008-01-26 23:08:56

Hi Karla, I am sorry that things are not going so smoothly for you. How are you managing Williams pain? Is he able to rate his pain level? How often is he stumbling or falling? I wonder if you can call Gillette and speak with an orthopedic nurse and share this information with them. Share your concern about managing pain and about how often he falls, and that you are very concerned that he is going to hurt himself and they will be seeing him for something else sooner. Sometimes you can share that you are having trouble managing the pain and you just need some assistance with what pain management should look like. If the nurse cannot help you, then maybe this would be the opportunity for them to try to see him sooner, because you have questions and concerns that need to be addressed since it is not best for the whole family to have their child in so much pain for so many weeks with no answers to questions. I hope with some encouragement that you will be able to get
to the docs sooner. Being seen sooner doesn't necessarily change the course of treatment or the process of Perthes, but it certainly makes things a little easier for the family to know where things are at and where things are headed. Hope that helps. Take care.

Jenny/Jared 7
libkarla <libkarla@...

My husband and I are getting a bit desperate in getting our son in to
see a pediatric orthopedist. Our regular doctor referred us to a
sports med/ortho doctor who is not a pediatric specialist. He wants
us to go to Gillette Children's Specialty Healthcare in St. Paul, MN.
I'm sure they are great...however, they are telling us we can't get
in until the end of July.
That seems way too long to wait. He has been limping and having pain
for at least 2-3 months now, and this weekend we noticed the limping
is worse and he has fallen several times while walking. This seems
like a bad sign, to someone like me who doesn't know much at least.
The range of motion in his hip is excellent--normally basically--which
I hope is a good sign. We also want to get in quickly since his age
seems borderline from what I've read (he'll be six in early July).
So, as we keep pushing them to get us in sooner, we are contemplating
our other options. We could go to the University of Minnesota (we
both work there), or we could try to get in at Shriners in the Twin
Cities (not totally sure how that works though). Any advice in
figuring out what is the best option--especially considering that even
the best care is not good care if you can't get in when you need to!
And how long should we expect to wait to get in for that first visit?
They finally said at Gillette that they typically see kids within a
month, yet the only appointment they offered us was almost two months
out. Argh!
Karla/William (almost 6)

Bladder schrinking ?

2008-01-26 10:50:42

For the past nine year I have been incontinent and for the last two
years I have been unable to retain any urine is it passable that my
bladder is shrink ink?

Re: Hi all I'm new here

2008-01-26 03:14:53

Hi Sandy I'm troy20772 I've dealt with incontinence all my life. I'm 35
& married with 2 kids I use Depends Guard for men during the day.
Depends adult diapers or Tena overnight pads & pants system at night.

Re: Any advice on choosing a doctor? My son's symptoms are worse...

2008-01-26 02:25:15

Hi Karla,
I'm no expert..however, I would definately advise going to a
Childrens hospital or Shriners. Often, the pediatric specialists
from different Childrens hospitals will also work at a Shriners
(maybe even this doc you are waiting to see.) Every member of our
ped orthopedic staff of our Childrens hospital in STL also works at
our Shriners. We're also lucky in STL to have two Childrens
Hospitals other than Shriners. Do you have more than one in the Twin
Cities?
I don't exactly know how it works at Shriners, but I went on our
Shriners website when Adam was first diagnosed. They had an
application that you could download, and it mentioned having a
referral from a physician. I have also heard word-of-mouth that they
encourage people to seek them out, are well funded, and almost all of
their services are free (or they pick up the copay if you have
private insurance.) Don't know about the wait time to get in.
Two months does seem like a long time to wait, when you are unsure
about restrictions, etc. Very good news that his ROM is good. Hope
that you can speed up that appt or find a great alternative!
Lisa/Adam 8

RE: [Incont] Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night

2008-01-25 17:33:04

hi if you have to wear just at bed time i wear attend slip and cloth pull ups and plastic pants that way no wetbed hope that helps give a shout if you like to chat stphn

Any advice on choosing a doctor? My son's symptoms are worse...

2008-01-25 16:48:27

My husband and I are getting a bit desperate in getting our son in to
see a pediatric orthopedist. Our regular doctor referred us to a
sports med/ortho doctor who is not a pediatric specialist. He wants
us to go to Gillette Children's Specialty Healthcare in St. Paul, MN.
I'm sure they are great...however, they are telling us we can't get
in until the end of July.
That seems way too long to wait. He has been limping and having pain
for at least 2-3 months now, and this weekend we noticed the limping
is worse and he has fallen several times while walking. This seems
like a bad sign, to someone like me who doesn't know much at least.
The range of motion in his hip is excellent--normally basically--which
I hope is a good sign. We also want to get in quickly since his age
seems borderline from what I've read (he'll be six in early July).
So, as we keep pushing them to get us in sooner, we are contemplating
our other options. We could go to the University of Minnesota (we
both work there), or we could try to get in at Shriners in the Twin
Cities (not totally sure how that works though). Any advice in
figuring out what is the best option--especially considering that even
the best care is not good care if you can't get in when you need to!
And how long should we expect to wait to get in for that first visit?
They finally said at Gillette that they typically see kids within a
month, yet the only appointment they offered us was almost two months
out. Argh!
Karla/William (almost 6)

Back to using diapers or overnight pads at night

2008-01-25 09:11:51

Hi I'm back to use pads or adult diaper at night. I have an overactive
bladder. Have been to the urologist. Any suggestions would be helpful

happy thanksgiving yanks

2008-01-25 02:55:20

Just a quick wish for all you yanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Best wishes to
all of you and hope you all had a great holiday
From the Canuck

stll in diapers and rubber pants at age 55.

2008-01-24 18:08:03

I HAVE BEEN INCONTIENENT SINCE THE AGE OF 7 YEARS OLD.I HAD RECENTLY
SEEN MY DOCTOR ABOUT WEEK AGO FOR ACUTE BRONCITUS, I TOLD HIM THAT I
STLL WET THE BED AT NIGHT, HE PUT ME ON DETROL, TO CALM MY BLADDER
DOWN ,HE ALSO THINKS IT MAYBE PSYCOLOGICAL,TYPE INCONTIENCE. IT ALSO
COULD BE FROM FAMILY HISTORY. IS THIS POSSIABLE?( PLEASE GIVE A COMMENT

Re: Happy Fathers Day

2008-01-24 10:11:34

Thank you Terry and Brad. Give those kids a hug for me. Brian

Happy Fathers Day

2008-01-24 09:36:27

Brian, I know you seem a little sad this time of year. You are a part
of my family. My kids look up to you. Your like a father to them. Brad
agrees when I saw, have a happy fathers day even though you don't have
kids of your own. Let me wish all the fathers out there a happy fathers
day also. Terry

bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

2008-01-23 19:32:51

I HAVE BEEN A BED WETTER SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD, IAM NOW AGE 55 AND
STLL WET THE BED. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT , I HAD INCONTIENCE DUE TO
THE WAY, I WAS TREATED AS A BOY. MY MOTHER KEPT ME IN DIAPERS AND
RUBBER PANTS,I WAS TREATED LIKE A BABY TO THE AGE OF 25 YEARS OLD. A
QUESTION ! WAS THIS THE REAL CAUSE OF MY INCONTINENCE???? CAN SOME ONE
GIVE SOME ADVICE ??

Re: [Incont] bed wetting , wearing diapers and rubber pants !

2008-01-23 19:03:10

Hi Babyindiapers,
You bring up a very interesting question.
Has your parents ever brought you to a urologist to find out if you have any physical problems that would cause you to be incontinent??

If not, may I suggest that you schedule an appointment with a qualified urologist, and have him/her run some tests on you to find out if you have physical problems that is causing your incontinence.
If the tests come back negative, I would then seek the help and advice from a qualified physcologist to help determine if your incontinence is emotionally based.

It's not at all un-common to be incontinent from emotional stress etc.
Your stating that your mom kept you diapered and treated you as a baby until age 25 could play a significant part as to why your incontinent as well.

In my case, I was born with a moderate spina bifida, and in my early 30's, was diagnosed with progressive multiple sclerosis.
Both medical problems causing severe urinary incontinence.
Hence, my need to wear cloth diapers and plastic pants 24/7.
Additionally, my folks to this day, did not, or does not accept my diagnosis of spina bifida, resulting in physical and emotional abuse.
They also made me sleep in a crib and nurse a baby bottle until age 16, at which time my aunt sought and gained legal custody of me.

My folks insisted that I was just being lazy, called me a disgrace to the family, and in general, A Failure!
So you can imagine how I hated having to wear diapers and plastic pants growing up.
Obviously, there was no love, caring or nurturing given to me while growing up.
My aunt did her best to give me everything I missed, and also made me understand that being incontinent was not my fault, and that many kids my age, as well as adults wore diapers and plastic pants to effectively manage their incontinence.
She stressed the point that I shouldin't ever be ashamed of wearing diapers.

As she stated, and my wife stated, diapers are nothing more then a different form of underwear.
I hope this bit of info will be of some help to you.
Take care,
Tiny Tony Smiley emoticon

Remember to add a doctor you like

2008-01-23 05:35:32

Remember everyone. I have a phone book set up in the database. Just
click on it to see the doctors listed or to add one you like. Brian

Re: [Incont] Hi all I'm new here

2008-01-23 04:01:58

my name is jamie i've been incont.for 20 years now and been in diapers 24/7. i'll be 38 this march 14,2008 so if you want to chat email me at jwwebpage@... ok
stom28 <stom28@...

Hi my name is Sandy I'm around 40 years old and plan to stay 40ish
forever. I've been bladder incontinent for around 20 years. I have very
little control of my bladder and out of the last 20 years at least 15
I've had to wear full briefs 24/7 I've recently started using cloth
briefs and plastic pants with the help of my friends on the ISC board
or incontinence support center. were I'm a very active member. I'm
other wise a fully active person with no other disabilities other then
incontinence. JUST A NOTE: I REFUSE TO BE HELD BACK BY INCONTINENCE.
My husband is the one that found this group for me. He was cruising
the groups the other night and found this one for me. it looked rather
well maintained so I thought I would give it a try. Funny my husbands
the one that got me going on the ISC board as well. Anyway I plan to
check in here day to day to see the happenings.....Keep smiling SANDY

Hi all I'm new here

2008-01-23 00:35:25

Hi my name is Sandy I'm around 40 years old and plan to stay 40ish
forever. I've been bladder incontinent for around 20 years. I have very
little control of my bladder and out of the last 20 years at least 15
I've had to wear full briefs 24/7 I've recently started using cloth
briefs and plastic pants with the help of my friends on the ISC board
or incontinence support center. were I'm a very active member. I'm
other wise a fully active person with no other disabilities other then
incontinence. JUST A NOTE: I REFUSE TO BE HELD BACK BY INCONTINENCE.
My husband is the one that found this group for me. He was cruising
the groups the other night and found this one for me. it looked rather
well maintained so I thought I would give it a try. Funny my husbands
the one that got me going on the ISC board as well. Anyway I plan to
check in here day to day to see the happenings.....Keep smiling SANDY

My care

2008-01-22 22:41:56

Hi there Nick

I am going to be moving into the care home in mid november how old are you and whats your disablity what do you need help with can you let me know thanks

Mark

Re: Jareds MRI

2008-01-22 15:06:06

Glad to hear only a small effusion and not something worse. I'm not
heading your way this time but maybe in July. I'm taking a vacation
somewhere. I don't want anymore days like today. Brian

Input Requested: The Spanner temporary stent

2008-01-22 03:24:22

Hello everyone,
Similar to John who wrote earlier this month for feedback on
his doctor's advice to have a urethral stent installed, I too
have had urine retention issues that required treatment by a
Urologist. In my case, we elected PVP (photovaporization of the
prostate). This procedure did help for about the first 24 months,
but as predictable, some symptoms of the previous problem are now
recurring.
I'm writing to ask if anyone here has experience with a (relatively
new?) prostatic stent called "The Spanner" (see www dot TheSpanner
dot com) www.TheSpanner.com This is a removable, temporary stenting
device designed to help manage urine retention due to BPH.
Before going for the PVP surgery, I asked my Urologist about a stent,
but he wasn't keen on doing one. In retrospect, I wonder if he
didn't want to do one because the PVP was a more lucrative procedure
than installing a simple stent.
Assuming the recurring symptoms will worsen, I think I will simply
insist on a stent (perhaps The Spanner) as a less-invasive and less
traumatic intervention next time. I have become accustomed to wearing
diapers 24/7 from the previous episodes and I would, frankly, much
rather deal with a continuous dribble into diapers than go through
another PVP or similar, traumatic procedure.
Any experienced feedback on this would be greatly appreciated -- re:
any men who have experience using The Spanner and doctors/referrals
in or near the Washington DC and/or Baltimore MD areas who are
knowledgable and can provide a consult.
Thanks!
Paul
pjwasho@...

Jareds MRI

2008-01-22 01:56:44

Hello Everyone, I finally got some information about Jared's MRI. The
doc says it looks good, better than he thought it would. There is a
small effusion, but no loose pieces of bone or torn cartiledge. We
have an appointment for June 18th and will talk more about it. Jared
still has a bruise from his fall the other night, he tripped and fell
against the railing above the staircase with the side of his hip and
got a nice bruise right away. We will keep you posted.
Jenny/Jared 7

Re: My care

2008-01-21 12:28:39

Hi there

As you all know i live at home with my mum and dad i am 17 years old and 3 years ago i became disabled due to a infection. Well my care is getting too intence and i am needing alot of help from nurseing staff out side our house mum or dad has to call in to help them out so the plan is that i will be moving to a nurseing home for teenagers that have disablitys can go to to live the place is close so mum and dad can visit me every day i am ok with it i think it would be good to take the stane of mum and dad at times so i will update you when this is going to happen.

Mark

Re: About brian

2008-01-21 08:37:21

Terry, shame on you. It's too late for me to delete this message.
At least you didn't post my truck number. Ha Ha. lol. Brian

hi im new!!!! Read This!!

2008-01-21 03:26:45

Hello i am a young guy (25) who has incontinence, im glad for the
support out there! If anyone is one FACEBOOK i just started a group
called INCONTINENCE SUPPORT GROUP. So please join it!!!

Thank you all for everyones help regarding my message left on this site

2008-01-20 21:40:24

24th October 2007
Hi its Christopher from Colchester, Essex uk
Thank you all for your help regarding my message left on this site on
22.10.07.
I will give the Abena Abri Form X plus a try.
I hope I can find a supplier here in the United Kindom who stocks
them.
My wife would like the help of this web site if anyone in the United
Kindom stocks disposable pull ups to fit hips 66 to 76 inch hips ?
Here in the UK the contience service does not agree with adult
nappies for the disabled but the doctors are on my side. It comes to
something when the contience service tells the doctors to stick to
there jobs and let the contience service do theres. Being disabled I
should get adult nappies free from the contience service but the
contience service are discriminateing against me. I will not give in.
Regards to all,
Christopher.

Re: Kate/Jacob 8

2008-01-20 16:55:08

Lisa,
Yes, the casts were made of Gortex (he also had a removeable bar,
you can see it in the photos also!)...our first doctor used it, but
Jacob is gettting ready to have his second set of petrie casts in
July, and will not get the Gortex. We went for a second opinion to
a doctor at Shriners in Tampa (Dr. Kim...has anyone heard of
him?)..he is giving us a different approach than the previous doc.
We have decided to go with this doctor bc we like that he has Jacob
on more restrictions...we thought it was strange that after the
first set of casts came off in Jan that he was allowed low impact
movement...no wheelchair, crutches or a brace!
Jacob's first set of casts came off Jan 19, 2007. He didn't have
another appointment/X-Ray until April. We started at Shriners May
15, and now go back June 19...surgery set for July 6
(tenotomy/petrie). The two doctors interpreted the same X-ray from
April totally different. The first doc didn't see bone growth and
thought containment was good...the second doc DID see bone growth
and thought containment and ROM was NOT good. He put him right into
a wheelchair and walker that day, and scheduled another tenotomy
(possibly, depending on ROM while under) and petrie casts. He had
me pull him out of PT, hippotherapy, and swim team...I am not
supposed to even PUT him in a pool due to possibility of activity.
This part was difficult for me to accept, I worked so hard getting
all these things started after the casts came off. We are allowing
him to SIT/lounge in a pool at times, but watching him carefully.
Luckily he is not having pain. The new doc does not recommend
Motrin/Advil but wants him only on Tylenol. I am glad he doesn't
need it often lately...but he is on 0 impact, so there is no real
reason he would have pain I guess.
The BEST way to do Disney is in a wheelchair!! We went during
Christmas, and Jacob loved it. Disney accomodates very well...with
front row reserved seating at all parades and fireworks shows, and
almost all the rides have one or two specially designed cars to
accept wheelchairs. If our chair was too big then Jacob would
transfer into one of theirs...of course we did not have to wait in
ANY lines! Jacob got tons of attention (positive) from the
characters. We went when I was 7 months pregnant, and we have yet
to try it with our 3 month old now! We are going on the Disney
Wonder ship at the end of this month for a 3 day cruise before the
next set of casts go on...one last blast before we are literally
going to be shut-ins!! This time with the baby I do not think we
will be going anywhere for the entire 6 weeks...we just won't all
fit into the car or van! Jacob's grandfather bought him an older
used lift van...it is great but will not be able to hold the car
seat...the seatbelts are broken on the bench seat behind where the
wheelchair hooks up.
Also, I posted on the links page an interesting exercise
machine...it is the modern version of an "Irish Mail"...it is called
a Champiot. It is totally propelled, steared and braked by arm and
hand movement. Unfortunately for us, our doctor hasn't approved it
yet for Jacob...I think he is not only on 0 impact but 0
activity...so frustrating!! I am hoping after the next set of casts
he will allow him to do more activity...body weight is becomming
more and more a factor. This new doc just told us to get him video
games (which we have never allowed before)...so we bought him a
Wii...he gets some activity with it at least, especially boxing.
I also posted a link to a website that makes accessible
clothing...for those of us who don't sew!! Check it out...I got it
from the other support group I belong to.
I am glad to be apart of this group also...it seems we may have more
in common with others here in the way of treatment. The other group
seems to be more geared toward surgery. Has anyone else noticed
that?
I look forward to reading more posts here! Thanks Brian for the
invite!!
Kate/ Jacob (8)

Re: Support Group for wheelchair users who also use adult nappies.

2008-01-20 13:09:49

Yep, Abri-Form X-Plus are the best adult briefs on the market right
now. You can also get them from:
XP Medical: http://www.xpmedical.com/id.html
Drugstore: http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?
id=N7mC9kx2*JA&offerid=43440.10000062&type=4&subid=0
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=ecnadmedia-
20&path=subst/home/home.html

RE: [Incont] Support Group for wheelchair users who also use adult nappies.

2008-01-20 09:53:12

I would have to say from experience that Abena X-Plus would be your best bet. They are avaialble at www.chicagomedicalsupplies.com

Support Group for wheelchair users who also use adult nappies.

2008-01-20 00:04:33

22nd October 2007
Hi my name is Christopher, I am a new member to this site. I am
disabled and also a wheelchair user. I would like the help of this
website is anyone can help is able to tell me which is the best
disposable all-in-one adult disposable nappy for long periods in a
wheelchair.
As I have only half a right hand side hip socket I do have to use
adult nappies I would like to join a support group.
If anyone has any ideas including wheelchair users please send your
replies to this website. My e mail address is
christopher.mattison@...
Anyone that uses adult nappies has my support.
I am located in Colchester, Essex.
Regards
Christopher Mattison

About brian

2008-01-19 23:04:22

Hi everyone. I want to sneak this in while Brian is away. I talked to
him and he had a bad day but is feeling better. Brian drives a truck
for Landstar. For years, I've been trying to do something special for
him and haven't found a way untill now. Landstar has a home page on the
web. www.landstar.com . On the page click on awards. There is a way to
give a driver an award. We just cann't tell them he had perthes because
they're very strick about who they hire. Maybe we can tell them how
much he has helped us. Truck driver get so many fauls calls against
them. I know because my husband drives. I know if Brian saw me writing
this, he would delete it. He can be mean at times about stuff like
this.lol I hope you all get to read this before he deletes it. Terry

Re: New here...not officially diagnosed...what do we need to know before (m)

2008-01-19 08:50:21

Hi Karla,
It seems like you have done your homework, and you are already an
expert. My son Carter was diagnosed in March. He had just had his 4th
birthday. We got our diagnosis with 24 hours. In fact our
pediatrician told us the day of his first appointment about perthes.
Shortly after we sent up to Primary Children's hospital in Salt Lake
where we found out that Carter was in the 1st stage. Our next ortho
appointment in at the END of July. We were told to limit his RUNNING
and JUMPING. Which is quite a task! You have come to the right place.
These people here are AMAZING at answering questions, and especially
just listening when you need to vent! Hang in there and WELCOME!
Emily/Carter(4)

Re:email to the group

2008-01-19 06:17:23

Welcome Kevin,

This group may not have all the answers to any questions you may have, but it's not from lack of trying. It will give you all the support of its' members. Once again welcome. PghDave

email to the group

2008-01-18 21:31:20

I am new to this goup. I am 46, married. I have a colostomy and a
neurogenic bladder. I had a sphincterotomy in January of 2007.

Re: Petrie Cast Bicycles?

2008-01-18 16:19:30

Actually the one I saw was more like the one on this link
http://www.kidtrikes.com/hand.html
But it is an outragious price for a child that would only need it, for not even
a year as
well...I am hopeing to look into it more certainly there are some used ones
around, they
may be sold somewhere, The one you showed is interested too, how does it
prepell? I
wonder? Just push, start (-:
Thanks!
Katrina/Ashton (4)

Re: [Incont] New Member from Bloomington, IL Male in 40's

2008-01-18 10:58:58

Most of "young" incontinents are rather diaper fetishists..... They like wearing diapers and pee in them.... A lot of these fetishists were enuretic in the past. And have kept some nostalgia of this "good old time".

Diaper fetishists or "diaper-lovers" DL read many groups about incontinence subject.

In these groups it's almost only speaking about diapers..... and not about incontinence cure - therapy

They hope to chat with truly incontinent girls and often they write to another DL boy, who pose as a girl.....

Funny.....

Sorry for my poor english, I'm french....

Petiala

Re: [Information-perthes] New here...not officially diagnosed...what do we need to know before (m)

2008-01-18 08:55:24

Wow Karla, you have done your research all ready! Good for you! I don't feel experienced enough with perthes yet to give you to much advise. I know the usual activity restrictions are no running, no jumping. My son is 4 will be 5 in sept. and has a pretty severe case of perthes all ready. The fact that his range of motion is good is great! I am glad you have found this site, and you will find lots of parents here are soo helpful! I am sure you will get some informative responses.
Hang in there, and good luck with getting him to a good doctor!
Welcome!
Katrina/Ashton (4)
On 6/8/07 12:22 PM, "libkarla" <libkarla@...

we have our first pediatric ortho appt?
I'm Karla, and my son William was tentatively diagnosed with Perthes
on Wed of this week. William is 5 (soon to be 6 on July 2). Our
family doctor had referred us to a sports medicine/ortho clinic
because of Wm's limping and leg pain. We had an initial eval there in
early May. They had checked his hips and x-rayed his knees down and
thought everything looked normal. We went back about a month later
because the limp and pain was, if anything, worse.
This time they x-rayed his hips too, and made a tentative diagnosis of
Perthes, though they referred us to a pediatric ortho since this guy
doesn't specialize in pediatrics. It was clear to us from the x-ray
(especially after seeing examples from other children) that the
diagnosis is probably accurate.
Now we have entered the frustrating arena of trying to get an appt
with the pediatric ortho, at Gillette Children's in St. Paul, MN.
They first said that they couldn't get us in until July 23! We've
been pushing, hard, and they have agreed to get us in before that, and
said the normal standard is to see kids within a month. They actually
had a cancellation for Monday, but said they can't see us then because
they require the doctor's notes and x-ray report ahead of time and it
hasn't been transcribed yet (we pushed on that too, without success).
So now I'm waiting for the pediatric ortho's nurse to call back to at
least answer some basic questions about what activities should Wm
avoid, and what do we do in the meantime while waiting for the appt?
We are so worried that whatever we are doing now is going to do
further damage or make his recovery harder. Some background, I'm a
medical librarian so I feel like we've been able to get up to speed
pretty quickly on our own about what this is...and we are feeling
overwhelmed by the prospect of what is to come. I don't know how
severe his case is, but do know that we thought the x-ray obviously
showed problems in his hip, even to the untrained eye.
The ortho mentioned when showing us that there's a hole in the bone on
the left hip (in the center I believe)--does that mean anything? They
also mentioned that Wm's range of motion in his left hip is
excellent--so close to normal I guess that that's why they didn't
x-ray his hips back in May. I'm hoping that's a good sign.
My main question right now is, what can you all suggest to us about
what activities to restrict until we can get into the doctor and find
out more? Wm is a VERY active little boy. We're assuming that we
should take him out of summer soccer. Do we keep him off the
playground? Try to keep walking to a minimum? He attends an after
school program (and will attend it in the summer all day) and they use
the playground daily and also do a lot of daily walking for field
trips. What do we do?
I'm so glad there is a group like this to turn to!
Karla/William (5--almost 6)

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New here...not officially diagnosed...what do we need to know before (m)

2008-01-18 02:38:01

we have our first pediatric ortho appt?
I'm Karla, and my son William was tentatively diagnosed with Perthes
on Wed of this week. William is 5 (soon to be 6 on July 2). Our
family doctor had referred us to a sports medicine/ortho clinic
because of Wm's limping and leg pain. We had an initial eval there in
early May. They had checked his hips and x-rayed his knees down and
thought everything looked normal. We went back about a month later
because the limp and pain was, if anything, worse.
This time they x-rayed his hips too, and made a tentative diagnosis of
Perthes, though they referred us to a pediatric ortho since this guy
doesn't specialize in pediatrics. It was clear to us from the x-ray
(especially after seeing examples from other children) that the
diagnosis is probably accurate.
Now we have entered the frustrating arena of trying to get an appt
with the pediatric ortho, at Gillette Children's in St. Paul, MN.
They first said that they couldn't get us in until July 23! We've
been pushing, hard, and they have agreed to get us in before that, and
said the normal standard is to see kids within a month. They actually
had a cancellation for Monday, but said they can't see us then because
they require the doctor's notes and x-ray report ahead of time and it
hasn't been transcribed yet (we pushed on that too, without success).
So now I'm waiting for the pediatric ortho's nurse to call back to at
least answer some basic questions about what activities should Wm
avoid, and what do we do in the meantime while waiting for the appt?
We are so worried that whatever we are doing now is going to do
further damage or make his recovery harder. Some background, I'm a
medical librarian so I feel like we've been able to get up to speed
pretty quickly on our own about what this is...and we are feeling
overwhelmed by the prospect of what is to come. I don't know how
severe his case is, but do know that we thought the x-ray obviously
showed problems in his hip, even to the untrained eye.
The ortho mentioned when showing us that there's a hole in the bone on
the left hip (in the center I believe)--does that mean anything? They
also mentioned that Wm's range of motion in his left hip is
excellent--so close to normal I guess that that's why they didn't
x-ray his hips back in May. I'm hoping that's a good sign.
My main question right now is, what can you all suggest to us about
what activities to restrict until we can get into the doctor and find
out more? Wm is a VERY active little boy. We're assuming that we
should take him out of summer soccer. Do we keep him off the
playground? Try to keep walking to a minimum? He attends an after
school program (and will attend it in the summer all day) and they use
the playground daily and also do a lot of daily walking for field
trips. What do we do?
I'm so glad there is a group like this to turn to!
Karla/William (5--almost 6)

New Member from Bloomington, IL Male in 40's

2008-01-17 16:27:26

John,

I NEVER would have thought of making a slip in the top diaper. I'm going to give it a try.

Well......I have relatively good success with inner diapers and the cost is less that all pullups and far more simple as I don't have to remove shoes and pants to change.. I work 12 hour shifts and change about 5 times during the course of a day. Of course as well all of us know......leakage can occur even when it seems that everything is placed 'just right'. I prefer a snug pullup and snug underwear over the pullup. My last change of the day I pull out the inner diaper and sleep in the pullup. Occasionally I won't leak at nite, but I just consider that a gift when that happens. I've been through lots of night time options including setting an alarm midway thru but I need uninterrupted sleep, so that was a passing phase. I now use plastic table cloths covered with a towel then topped with a draw sheet across the width of the bed.

I am learning lots from all of you who post, and am so amazed at how many people are able to function with incontinence. ........Mike
pamprbaby <pamprbaby@...

Hi Mike,
Welcome to the group. Like you I had recently discovered this support
group.
Yes there are alot of incontinent people of all ages and for different
reasons. As for myself its a result of a motorcycle accident.
Question for you......
I usually double diaper myself by making a slit if the first diaper and
then covering it with another. In the evening or at home I wear several
layers of diapers because I dont have to worry about trying to hide
them so I spent most of my time in just diapers and tshirts at home.
I never tried actually using baby diapers as booster pads....how are
they?
Again....welcome to the group.
PamprBaby.....John

Re: [Information-perthes] Petrie Cast Bicycles?

2008-01-17 08:26:08

I just joined the group the other day, but am wondering if this link shows a bike like you mean:
http://www.creativekidstuff.com/flyingturtle.html
My children's school has a special ed preschool, and my kids love to ride a "bike" they have like this--it's a lot of fun! My son was just tentatively diagnose with Perthes on Wed and we haven't seen a pediatric orthopedist yet to determine his treatment, but I was thinking of getting him one of these--partly because he loves riding the one at school occasionally just for fun! The store this link is from is local to me, and they are having a sale right now too [INLINE]
Karla/William (5--almost 6)
"katrina.hembree" <katrina.hembree@...

I remember when I was first learning about perthes, I believe they were in the UK, there some
hand perpelled bicycles? they had a really wide, tractor type seat, and almost a tractor type
shape, and handles that the children would use to perpell, right in front of them. I dont
remember where I seen them, or if we can even find them in the United States, or if any of
you have used one before with any of your children in a cast. I am not sure, yet how safe they
would be, ect. But I am trying to look into it. Any input would be great!
Whatcha think?
Katrina/Ashton (4)

Karla

Re: [Incont] Thanks Mike

2008-01-17 05:50:05

John,

Kate/Jacob 8

2008-01-17 01:25:28

Hi Kate,
I saw the pictures that you posted of your son Jacob. They are
terrific, thank you for posting them! I loved that he could swim in
that cast - I didn't know they made waterproof Petrie model!
My son is also 8 and was in a Petrie for Christmas last year. He had
it removed just before his birthday in January.
I'm curious about a couple of things. You said that your doctors
have not been advocates for surgery. How is Jacob being treated
since the Petrie came off? Is he in a brace, wheelchair, crutches or
all of the above (as is the case with my son)? I hope he is doing
well, he looks like he has a great attitude!
And - how was Disney with the wheelchair? We have thought about
taking Adam, but we also have a 2 year old, so it makes us kind of
nervous to do the wheelchair/stroller thing...that's a lot of wheels
to keep up with!
I will definitely show these pictures to Adam. We have been
fortunate to meet several families in our area that have gone through
Perthes, but all of the affected kids are now much older (teens-
twenties) and for the most part aren't being actively treated
anymore. It will be nice for him to see someone that is his age,
going through it at the same time!
Thanks again for posting these,
Lisa/Adam 8

Thanks Mike

2008-01-16 15:24:01

Thanks for ttthe info Mike. This helps a lot. One stupid question, how
to retrieve e-mail from this site?
John

Petrie Cast Bicycles?

2008-01-16 14:11:24

I remember when I was first learning about perthes, I believe they were in the
UK, there some
hand perpelled bicycles? they had a really wide, tractor type seat, and almost a
tractor type
shape, and handles that the children would use to perpell, right in front of
them. I dont
remember where I seen them, or if we can even find them in the United States, or
if any of
you have used one before with any of your children in a cast. I am not sure, yet
how safe they
would be, ect. But I am trying to look into it. Any input would be great!
Whatcha think?
Katrina/Ashton (4)

Off Topic- Adult diapers

2008-01-16 01:10:04

Hello Everyone,

If anyone in the groups is in need of size large protection, there is a Goodwill near me with a large laundry cart full of Kendall Wings Large (blue) with the waistband for .99c a bag they probably have about 30 bags in it if anyone needs them. This Goodwill is located just west off US-131 and 28th St in Wyoming, Michigan. I just thought I would send a note out a minute. Have a good weekend everyone.

Jack Kramer

" Accept me for who I am, it is me true and honest!"

babyvamp@...

Re: New Member from Bloomington, IL Male in 40's

2008-01-15 20:55:36

Hi Mike,
Welcome to the group. Like you I had recently discovered this support
group.
Yes there are alot of incontinent people of all ages and for different
reasons. As for myself its a result of a motorcycle accident.
Question for you......
I usually double diaper myself by making a slit if the first diaper and
then covering it with another. In the evening or at home I wear several
layers of diapers because I dont have to worry about trying to hide
them so I spent most of my time in just diapers and tshirts at home.
I never tried actually using baby diapers as booster pads....how are
they?
Again....welcome to the group.
PamprBaby.....John

Re: Need Advice on Stent Procedure

2008-01-15 11:45:43

Hi Paul....Brew,
Thankyou for the link. Lots of valuable info there and I am going to
read it more closely once I am done writing this to you and the group.
Why I thought about losing control of my bowels stems from the comments
I see like "complete incontinence"....I guess that led me to believe
that it ment everything.....LOL. I feel a bit stupid.
Oh well......it took many years to get a sense of humor all was not
perfect in the land of John for many years after my accident. I will
post a bit more about myself and things that have made me who I am
today.
Again....thank you for the information and taking the time to respond
to my post.
Take Care,
PamprBaby.....John

Re: [Information-perthes] Sorry, I'm sick again!!

2008-01-15 08:12:12

You hang in there Brian, Please don't overwhelm your self, Do what you can!
Katrina/Asthon (4)
On 6/8/07 12:47 AM, "Brian" <bbaker904@...

Sorry everyone. I need to slow down some. My UC is back again just in
time for a long trip west. Maybe I'll get threw the Denver area again
but more than likely across I-40 from Oklahoma threw Arizona. I'll try
to check the group as much as I can but may be slow answering. Sorry
Brian

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Sorry, I'm sick again!!

2008-01-15 05:13:34

Sorry everyone. I need to slow down some. My UC is back again just in
time for a long trip west. Maybe I'll get threw the Denver area again
but more than likely across I-40 from Oklahoma threw Arizona. I'll try
to check the group as much as I can but may be slow answering. Sorry
Brian

Need Advice on Stent Procedure

2008-01-15 05:01:25

Hi Everyone,
My name is John and I am a new member. I have been dealing with
incontinence in varying degrees since the mid 1980s after a
motorcycle accident. I am bladder incontinent due to nerve damage
from the accident. It started out light and got worse as time went
by. I was told by the doctors when it first happened that this might
happen and it did. The one thing that has happened recently is that
my bladder is starting to retain fluids to the point that my bladder
has been stretching. Imagine being incontinent and then not be able
to pee. I dont wish this on anyone. The pain is overwhelming.
Anyway...I can talk more about it later for anyone who has questions
but I went to my doctor and he said I have a "paralyzed bladder" and
I should think about having a stent put in to keep me from having
renal failure if my bladder doesnt empty when it should.
I am concerned that if I get a stent put in that I would lose control
of my bowels which I dont want to have happen.
Is there anyone....nurse or doctor or someone who may have one,
please give me some adive on what I should do.
Thanks,
John

how tis site works?

2008-01-14 13:46:13

I am a 50 yr old man, married, but somewhat computer illiterate guy who
must do the old search and peck to type. noticed going through the
members that it indicates most are off line but a few are lit up. Also,
many are marked bouncing? What does this mean? Also, if they are on
line, is this also a chat room or something like that? Sorry, but when
it comes to computers, Im pretty much a dummy. Anyways, Hi to you all.

Re: [Information-perthes] Cast changed and update on Jacob

2008-01-14 13:43:13

Hi Terry, I am glad you got in to the doctors and got the cast changed, that should be easier on both of you now. Are the other issues improving? I hope things are getting better, keep us posted.

Jenny/Jared 7
"Terry B." <crossvllb@...

I'm sorry I didn't respond right away. I called the doctor monday and
he told me to bring Jacob in. The doctor didn't like the loose cast and
did a xray again. Jacob still has a non closed bone on his pelvis that
was cut during the surgery. He said everything else looked good and his
hip was stable. He cut the cast and set him up for another cast today.
I was able to bath him and get rid of some of the dead skin. I was
surprised that they sedated him again for the new spica. This time it's
a plain blue cast. His leg is a lot straighter than the last cast so he
isn't able to sit in his chair without pillows. He is still in a
sitting type position, just more reclined. The doctor didn't cast the
foot this time so Jacob says this one feel better. We're home again. 5
more weeks and counting. Terry

RE: [Incont] what makes

2008-01-14 03:57:01

hi if you like to know how you be come incont look it up on how your body works thats the best i can do for you stpnh

people noticing

2008-01-14 02:25:47

some one posted that the only place that can tell you are wearing them
is nursing home and hospital and i ca tell you i have worked in health
care for about 5 yrs and no body has noticed what i wear some people
ask what in my bag i just change the subject and it is kinda cool to
work in this field i know it is a little wrong but i have access to a
wide varity of diapers some good some bad and it helped me find the
right one for me and sometimes i need to change and can't get to my
bag i just use one of the nursing homes or hospital and again nobody
has ever noticed what i am wearing except for one time i got rush to
the hospital for heat exausting from a structure i was working at i
had to confide in the nurse but she realy didn't care she just gave me
a dry one and kept the iv fluids going i felt wierd being a
firefighter suspose to be all big and strong and have to ask for these
so i am going to bed my tail end of a 36 hrs shift is 11 hrs away and
want to get to bed hope this helps

Re: Hello everyone!

2008-01-13 16:20:33

Hi Emily,
Thanks for checking back in. It was good to see you here again.
We'll look forward to hearing from you more often! Keep those
scrapbook pages coming! No pressure...:)
Meridith

what makes

2008-01-13 13:34:15

I was wondering is it any thing that you eat or drink that makes you
incontinent, or something that you do, or does it just happen?
love to find out.
inreins

Cast changed and update on Jacob

2008-01-13 01:16:41

I'm sorry I didn't respond right away. I called the doctor monday and
he told me to bring Jacob in. The doctor didn't like the loose cast and
did a xray again. Jacob still has a non closed bone on his pelvis that
was cut during the surgery. He said everything else looked good and his
hip was stable. He cut the cast and set him up for another cast today.
I was able to bath him and get rid of some of the dead skin. I was
surprised that they sedated him again for the new spica. This time it's
a plain blue cast. His leg is a lot straighter than the last cast so he
isn't able to sit in his chair without pillows. He is still in a
sitting type position, just more reclined. The doctor didn't cast the
foot this time so Jacob says this one feel better. We're home again. 5
more weeks and counting. Terry

Re:Aproud new member

2008-01-13 01:08:55

1a.

Aproud new member

Posted by: "irishfan66" irishfan66@... irishfan66

Fri Oct 5, 2007 10:28 am (PST)

Hi my name is adam i'm 41 and have been incontinent for 10 years. I
have a very supportive wife,and family. I think ithis is great to have
a support group for incontinence. I think there are more people i
should say under 50 who are in our situation,and i wish health
insurance would pay for our diapers. I have a question for everyone. Is
it better to remove pubic hair,or not? i get extreme rash in the heat.
My second question is cloth vs disposible diapers? thanks for letting
me post. i look forward to some chat Adam
Hi Adam,

Just a note on your questions. First let me say I'm glad your family is so supportive. It took awhile for my wife to accept my incontenance. That was until she started having the same issue. Now she accepts diapers are just a form of underware.

I find that shaving is a good answer for me. There are times when it is inconveinent tofind a restroom to change. The shaving helps, as the hair tends to keep the pee smell,unless you actually bath or shampoo it. Being hairless, all I need is a wipe,and I am fresh again.It maakes it a lot easier to clean up and easier to apply rash cream. It may itch at first, and you may get shaving bumps the first time, but as you continue shaving, these things will dissapear.

As for your question about which diaper, that is more about convinience. I wear Prevail@ diapers, and Depend@ insert during the day and to work. Would love to be able to afford Molicare, but like others, My insurance does not cover diapers. The disposables are good during the day as I am usually aware of when I need to change and I don't have to store a wet cloth diaper until I head home.

At night I prefer a cloth diaper with plastc pants. The cloth diapers seem to hold more and don't leak as oftenas disposables. Cloth does have drawbacks,(more laundry), but being a someone with sleep apnea, I use a breathing machine that puts me in a deep sleep. The cloth diapers are a good solution for me. I hope this helps you out. PghDave

Aproud new member

2008-01-12 18:57:19

Hi my name is adam i'm 41 and have been incontinent for 10 years. I
have a very supportive wife,and family. I think ithis is great to have
a support group for incontinence. I think there are more people i
should say under 50 who are in our situation,and i wish health
insurance would pay for our diapers. I have a question for everyone. Is
it better to remove pubic hair,or not? i get extreme rash in the heat.
My second question is cloth vs disposible diapers? thanks for letting
me post. i look forward to some chat Adam

Re: falling down

2008-01-12 15:00:04

Not normaly. Falling down with legs bents puts the fall on the muscles
and mid femur. If you jump and land straight legged, you will feel the
thrust threw your hips into your back. So unless he fell on his side
directly on the hip there shouldn't be an issue other than the jirk to
the hip causing some pain. Some kids from lack of activity get fragile
femurs, so watch for swelling to make sure no hair line fracture. Brian

falling down

2008-01-12 11:18:27

It is heavily raining here in Sydney so my son Oscar had to walk into school
this morning
from the carpark on his crutches (using good leg only), while I ran in carrying
wheelchair.
Inside, he slipped on wet flooring and crashed down on the knee of the perthes
hip.
Now he is back home with me on ibuprophen (pain relief medication).
Can a small fall like this crush newly formed bone?
Susan/Oscar 8

Re: I got a copy of Justin's MRI results

2008-01-12 02:49:34

I sounds like they are saying he has a bad socket causing this.
Hopefully the specialist can figure what needs to be done. I'm
trying to remember how old he is. If he has a socket problem, then
expect surgery because this is what Jacob had a problem with not
diagnosed. I'm just guessing some based on what was written. The
socket is made in the body were pelvis bones come together. The
ilium is one of those bones. When I write about dysplasia
connections, this is one. I wish I had something better to write.
Brian

I got a copy of Justin's MRI results

2008-01-11 18:18:04

And I'm going to type the summary and you can tell me if you still
think he will require surgery or what your thoughts are.
Summary:
1) Flattening and decreased height of the left caporal femoral
epiphysis. There is widening of the left femoral neck. This finding can
be seen with Legg-Perthes disease.
2) There is abnormal left supra-acetabular signal within the marrow of
the ilium. Cannot rule out a stress fracture or stress reaction.
3) Small left hip joint effusion.
He had a bad day today. We had some crutches here already so he's been
using them, but the pain seems to be letting up some now. He seems to
be getting worse each day with pain. He limped very badly today. But,
then at other times, on good days, he walks just fine.
Kristy

Re: About doctor visits and surgery options, what to ask

2008-01-11 05:59:35

Thank you Lisa so much for posting this. I wish you could post some
pictures of the casts and braces he used to show others what was
done for him. I understand if you don't want to. A lot of older
doctors are going back to this because of the results in long term.
Thank you again and give your son a hug for me. And sorry if I came
on strong. Brian

Hello everyone!

2008-01-11 00:53:53

Hi everyone! I am sorry I have been MIA for the last few months. I
have been overwhelmed with things and just felt like I needed to take
a break. Now that it is summer, and the weather is getting hot, I
find myself having a hard time dealing with managing Carter because
like all little 4 year old boys, he wants to PLAY HARD! I wish I had
a better update on him, but things are pretty much the same. His next
appointment is at the end of July. I have been noticing that in the
last few weeks he has had more and more pain.. except on the OTHER
LEG. HE tells that it hurts from his knee to the bottom of his shin.
I think this may be from compensation. I don't know.
Another thing I have been struggling with is the fact that we are on
a top floor apartment (one flight). We have been debating on whether
or not to move downstairs. Its such a hard thing, moving. I have been
kind of putting it off.. but I know its something I need to face. I
would love to just pretend this didn't exist.. but that would not do
anyone any good!
Ok well I am off to read some posts and meet some of our new
members.. Gosh this group has grown in the past few months! Hope
everyone is doing good! Emily/Carter(4)

Re: [Information-perthes] About doctor visits and surgery options, what to ask

2008-01-10 18:05:25

Hi Brian,

I very much agree with you. Dr. Schoenecker, our orthopedic surgeon, is an older doctor, well-established, and very respected in his field - specializes in pediatric hip conditions.

He is treating our 8-year old son, who is approaching the end of the age spectrum that has a good outcome with this disease. And our Doc was very firm about treating him with NON-surgical containment. He said that he could cut his bones and pin them all day long (his is a surgeon, he reminded us) and have him out of that wheelchair in 6 months. But...he has seen a lot of Perthes cases and has had much more success with casting and bracing or repeated casting.

He said that younger doctors are afraid of doing it this way, because they don't think parents will comply with the brace and wheelchair. He feels that doctors use surgical containment to appease the parents in many cases, although I do know an 11-year old that was treated by this same Doc and had to have a pelvic osteotomy because of the severity of his disease. So he is not completely one-sided.

After the tenotomy and cast, he put Adam in a petrie-type brace for 2 years. He is so pleased with his progress and is offering additional freedoms and lifting of restrictions with each visit. And with each visit, he brings in a whole group of young doctors to stare at Adam's ROM exam and X-rays and lectures them all on non-surgical containment.

As many have said here before, every case is different. But if I were new to this again, I would ask for all of my options.

And don't be afraid of the brace and the wheelchair, if it is an option for you. It is now second nature to us. I dropped Adam off at camp today, and he hopped out of his wheelchair and crutched with his Petrie brace on (what a sight!) to go play wiffleball.

Thanks, Brian, for encouraging our families to ask a lot of questions and seek the most qualified physicians!

Lisa/Adam 8
Brian <bbaker904@...

Hi everyone. I don't mean to put anyone down about surgeries, but I
want to pass on a question you always should ask a doctor with a
child under 7 years old. Ask this: Is there anything that can be
done if we don't want surgery? The reason I say that is this.
I've done a lot of look ups about perthes. If any of you have every
watched Scrubs on TV, it's a funny show but there is some truth to
it. There are 2 types of doctors. Medical doctors that specialize in
fields with medical approaches and studies. There are also surgeons.
They specialize in fields doing surgery. There is a big difference.
One looks at multiple angles and research before acting, and the
other wants to repair by the hands, like an automobile re-builder.
Sorry if that isn't a good comparison, but it's the best way I can
put it. If you go to an orthopedic surgeon, he is looking to repair
the problem with a knife. If you go to a general orthopedist, like
Dr Paley and Dr Standard, you get a more open look at options. There
was an xray posted for opinions on the web were a doctor wanted
advise on his patient. The child was 6 with perthes in one hip and
an arthrogram was done. The doctor said the child was a B hip. After
looking at the xray, one doctor(surgeon) wrote that the hip was a C
an a osteotomy was needed. The second doctor wrote, the hip was an A
and why did you do and arthrogram. He was a main name perthes
doctor. Finally the instructor wrote he agreed the hip was an A, the
arthrogram was nice but agreed no treatment was need. So with 3
doctors, you get 3 opinions. I saw the xray, the child was in stage
1 and had less than 50% involvement. The hip was an A and I agreed
with the perthes doctor. He was Dr McCormich from Atlanta Scottish
Rite by the way.
Femoral osteotomies have a 87% success rate with perthes. That is
an estimated figure based on different studies I've read. But all
in all, 1 in 10 won't have good results long term. The studies based
on braces was close to the same. Keep in mind these studies were
done for all ages too. Both studies were better than not doing
nothing in children under 6 by 10%.
The study that had the highest good outcomes and better follow ups
was casting long term, 97%. This however was put down years ago
because it was said casting was considered cruel and unusual. Not
what you would expect in a medical study. Other main name doctors
are seeing the benefit of the casting a bracing and some are
returning to the practice of it. It is found that casting doesn't
need to be a long and drawn out as before. There is a window that
lasts 6-10 months were it works the best. From just prior to the end
of fragmentation until the hip get stronger with cartilage build up.
When your dealing with a condition that lasts 2 years or more,
what's the gain by permanently changing the hip if there is a choice
available. Keep in mind that due to late diagnosis or condition the
choice may not be there. But it doesn't hurt to ask.
We have too many surgeons, jumping the gun because this procedure
worked for this kid so all kids with perthes need it. I just hope
some of you understand were I come from on this. I hate it to the
bone, when I see that post, but I don't know the circumstances. It
just breaks my heart. Brian

Re: sickness

2008-01-10 16:48:28

I don't think I would worry about it as long as your
able to go with no trouble. If you were drinking alot
of liquids while sick your body might still be
shedding it. But I would not stop drinking liquids
your body needs at least 60 plus onces of liquid a
day. Preferably water. You don't want to become
dehydrated. I have this problem with my wife if she
becomes dehydrated, then it's a trip to the hosiptal
for fluids. I also have to keep track of what she
drinks and hope she makes her 60 onces.
Richie bus_5_39

New Poll

2008-01-10 15:15:46

What can of booster do you use

sickness

2008-01-10 04:32:16

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This has never happened to me before but.

I got a cold/flu and noticed a slight increase in the severity of my incontinence which is not abnormal, the abnormal part is that after I recovered from it and decreased my fluid intake back to normal the issue is still there. Anyone know anything about this?

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Re: How's Charles

2008-01-10 03:13:34

Thanks Jenny,
I went over there on Monday and got my daughter, Jennifer, on the
group. She was suppose to post (I told her to at least say hello) but
with carting Charles around and waiting on him constantly she doesn't
have much time out. I know she did get on and looked at all the
pictures because she wanted to see what others have been through. I
know she has been reading everything even when she couldn't post yet.
I know that they are getting ready to leave for Fayetteville tomorrow
for Charles surgery. The Dr. Greene is going to cut some of the bone
in hip and put a metal plate. He is suppose to get that out if all
goes well in about 6 months. She and I are both concerned because
Charles has %100 involvement of the ball of the hip joint.
This to the parents told to wait and see for 3 months: Charles'
parents were getting the same information. In the mean time he was
playing basketball & just started baseball when they decided to take
him to an orthopedic doctor. As soon as they saw Dr Marr in
Wilmington, NC everything started moving very fast (unfortunately 8
months of wait and see had passed); MRI, CT Scan and appointment to
review tests. Then urgency became the way he handled everything. An
appointment was made in less than a week with another orthopedic
doctor in Fayetteville (2 hours away). Just my opinion, but with
Perthes diagnosis, when a doctor says' "Wait and see", it is time for
a second opinion from an orthopedic. Charles had X-rays and I
suppose they didn't show what the MRI & CT Scan was able to pick up.
I'll be thinking about you all but probably won't be on her much
after tomorrow morning as I'm also going out to Fayetteville to stay
while Charles is in the hospital. After the surgery Charles' dad will
have to come home to run his business and I don't want my daughter
alone there. She will only leave Charles' side to get something to
eat if I insist and I'm there with him.
Carol - Charles' Grammy

Re: David

2008-01-09 17:40:39

Hi and welcome. Stage one is blood loss and bone death. It's the
hardest to see, especially in on as young as your son. I bet that
was hard to see. Second stage is when the dead bones fractures,
breaks up and is absorbed. There should be 4 stages, but there is 3.
Third is regrowth. Now I say there should be a stage 4 because there
is a period every on dreads, waiting for regrowth. There is a time
from when the bone goes away, until it is reosified were cartilige
has to grow and fill in. Al bone breaks and the hip grow back the
same way. Cartilage fills the void and multiplies. Once set in place
and strong, the body calcifies it and turns it to bone. I hope you
get the idea.
That the main concern with perthes. Once the head is gone, or the
dead bone is gone, you need to wait for the cartilage to fill a
strengthen. The smaller the area, and the younger the child, the
better. Your son's hip is near 50% cartilage at his age. The growth
plate should look like it's floating about the hip.
The only thing they need to watch on him is dysplasia. And that
might be his pain spurts. The hip pops out a bit and then back in.
This causes irritation, synovial fluid increase, and pain. But being
3, unless it's the whole head and he has dysplasia, I think this
will pass for him. Maybe double-triple diaper him at night, just to
hold the hips in a good growing position. Brian

Re: Australian members with Perthe's?

2008-01-09 16:23:20

Hi Sharon and welcome. It's late night here, but I'm still up. In
my links, go to the David's page link. Neil Stewart is the father,
and his son David is from Australia. He has some links to. I also
just recieved an email from another refering a doctor down there. If
you look in files, it is a bisophosinate or something like write up.
Sorry if I wrote that wrong. I'm trying to get to bed. Please email
mail me in private at bbaker904@.... I have neils address, but
it takes him time to respond. I've learned that quite a few doctors
down there are turning away from surgery, so I think your search may
be easier than you think. Brian

About doctor visits and surgery options, what to ask

2008-01-09 07:05:38

Hi everyone. I don't mean to put anyone down about surgeries, but I
want to pass on a question you always should ask a doctor with a
child under 7 years old. Ask this: Is there anything that can be
done if we don't want surgery? The reason I say that is this.
I've done a lot of look ups about perthes. If any of you have every
watched Scrubs on TV, it's a funny show but there is some truth to
it. There are 2 types of doctors. Medical doctors that specialize in
fields with medical approaches and studies. There are also surgeons.<